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 ysacostas
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  Posted 05/07/2006 12:23:08 AM
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Shell collection that needs to be identified. You may view the shells at http://sontillanoshells.multiply.com  and/or

   Check out the new specimen that I have in the Shell ID needed folder at http://sontillanoshells.multiply.com/photos/album/9/Shell_ID_needed  

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 Paul Monfils
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  Posted 07/07/2006 01:53:22 AM
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Well now, that's a LOT of shells!  OK, for starters I'll take a shot at Group 7 (forgive me if I don't look up the authors and dates for all these) ...

1 Conus suratensis
2 Conus leopardus
3 Conus bandanus vidua
4 Conus kintoki or possibly Conus coelinae
5 Conus kintoki
6 Conus virgo
7 Conus litteratus
10 Conus generalis
11 Conus thalassiarchus
13 Conus striatus
14 Conus nicobaricus
15 Conus vexillum
16 Conus laterculatus
17 Conus textile
18 Conus textile
19 Conus miles
20 Conus pertusus
21 Voluta (Cymbiola) vespertilio
22 (L to R) Conus catus nigropunctatus; Conus arenatus; Conus mercator; Conus sp., species uncertain.
23 Voluta (Cymbiola) vespertilio
24 Conus vexillum
25 Voluta (Cymbiola) vespertilio
26 Mitra eremitarum
27 Mitra cardinalis
28 Mitra papalis
29 Conus stercusmuscarum
30 Conus ammiralis
31 Conus textile (beachworn)
32 Conus gloriamaris
33 Conus aulicus propenudus
34 Conus episcopatus
35 Conus sp., species uncertain
36 Conus gloriamaris
37 Conus miles
38 Conus coccineus
39 Conus textile
40 Conus geographus
41 Conus magus (one of many forms)
42 Conus generalis
43 Conus mustelinus
44 Conus sp., species uncertain, may be a light-colored Conus distans
45 Conus tessulatus
46 Conus telatus
47 Conus ammiralis
48 Conus glaucus
49 Conus marmoreus
50 Conus generalis
51 Conus marmoreus
52 Conus pulicarius
53 Conus sp., species uncertain, perhaps a color form of Conus planorbis vitulinus??
54 Conus striatellus
55 Conus generalis
56 Conus figulinus
57 Conus vexillum sumatrensis
58 Conus betulinus
59 Conus vexillum
60 Conus stercusmuscarum
61 Conus pulicarius
62 Conus stercusmuscarum
63 Conus marmoreus
64 Conus marmoreus
65 Spondylus varians
66 (L) Biplex perca; (C) Aporrhais serresianus; (R) a solitary coral, I know the name but can't recall it now.
67 Spondylus sp, probably Spondylus barbatus, attached to a Serpulorbis colubrinus
68 unknown coral
69 chiton, species uncertain
70 Lopha cristagalli
71 unknown
72 Lopha hyotis
73 Tubipora sp. (organpipe coral)
74 uncertain, upper valve of a Pseudochama?
75 Balanus sp. (barnacles)
76 Chama lazarus
100 Architectonica perspectiva
101 Murex (Hexaplex) cichoreum
102 Murex (Hexaplex) cichoreum
103 (L) uncertain; (R) Bolma erectospinosa
104 Angaria delphinus
105 (L) Strombus bulla; (R) Angaria rugosa
106 Guildfordia triumphans
107 (L) Cellana flava; (R) Guildfordia yoka
108 Angaria delphinus
109 Guildfordia triumphans
110 Obba marginata (land snail)
111 Ryssota sp., probably Ryssota sagittifera (land snail)
112 (L) Strombus sp., juvenile, species uncertain; (C) Architectonica perspectiva; (R) Marisa cornuarietis (fresh water)
113 (L) Chrysallis sp.; (C) Canistrum ovoideum; (R) Liguus virgineus (land snails)
114 (L) Chrysallis virgata (one of many forms); (C) unknown (family Trochidae); (R) Strombus mutabilis
115 Liguus virgineus (land snail)
116 Amphidromus entobaptus (land snail)
117 Helicostyla sp., probably Helicostyla rufogaster (land snail)
118 Chrysallis sp., may all be forms of C. virgata (land snails)
119 Achatina fulica (land snail)
120 (L) Casmaria erinacea; (C) and (R) Casmaria erinacea, form vibex
121 Conus aulicus
122 Nassa serta
123 Conus lividis
124 Conus textile
125 Conus magnificus


 David Touitou
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 David Touitou
  Posted 07/07/2006 08:42:52 AM
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Thank You Paul for this Huge identification, it takes time
And good job !

 ysacostas
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  Posted 07/07/2006 12:46:03 AM
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Thank you very much for taking time to view the shells. I've waited for years to have the shells identified. This is my mom's collection and she passed away a few years ago. She left the collection with me however the specimen and their identification got separated. It's like a big jigsaw puzzle for me. Would appreciate it if you can find time to view the other folders too. People like you are very rare  images/icones/icon7.gif      

 shelltony
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 shelltony
  Posted 10/07/2006 05:34:26 AM
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very nice collection.  I think it is great that you are carrying on this collection. people like you are rare too.

 Paul Monfils
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  Posted 10/07/2006 06:55:58 PM
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Group 5:

1 Conus ebraeus
2,7 Melo sp., the shell body looks like Melo broderipii, but the flattened spines look like melo umbilicatus.
3 Conus marmoreus (or possibly Conus bandanus) (juvenile)
4 juvenile Melo, probably Melo broderippi
5 Harpa major
6 Harpa harpa
8 Harpa sp., may be Harpa ventricosa
9 (L) Harpa sp., may be Harpa cabritii; (R) Harpa articularis
10 Phalium glaucum
11 uncertain - juvenile Phalium??
12 Phalium areola
14 Tonna sulcosa
16 Phalium bandatum
17 Tonna cepa
18 Tonna tessellata
19 Malea pomum
20 Tonna dolium
21 Bulla ampulla
22 Haliotis ovina
23 Tonna allium
24 Atys naucum
25 Bulla sp., probably Bulla vernicosa but could be Bulla ampulla
26 Babylonia areolata
27 (L) Hydatina albocincta; (R) Hydatina physis
28 Nerita sp., can't ID the species from this angle
29 Hydatina zonata
30 Trochus niloticus (ground and polished)
31 (L) Calocochlia sp.; (R) Calocochlia roissyana (land snails)
32 Trochus sp., probably Trochus stellatus
33 (L) Trochus sp. (polished); (R) Trochus hanleyanus
34 Trochus niloticus
35 Tectus triserialis
36 Bolma erectospinosa
37 probably Trochus niloticus
38,40 Tectus conus
39 Helicostyla lignaria (land snail)
41 (L) Argobuccinum pustulosum, juvenile; (R) Tectarius coronatus
42 Tectus triserialis
43 Maurea tigris
44 (L) three small Trochus, species uncertain
45 (L) Thiara cancellata; (C) Cyclophorus daraganicus (land snail); (R) Helix aspersa (land snail)
46 Rapa rapa
47 (L) Monodonta labio; (R) small Helicostyla, species uncertain (land snail)
48 Maurea punctulata
49,51,68 Turbo petholatus
50 Turbo marmoratus
52 Semicassis bisulcata
53 Tonna dolium
54,55,57,58,60,61,63 Neritina waigiensis (synonym: Neritina communis)
56 Tonna tessellata
59 Cancellaria mercadoi
62 Nerita sp., probably Nerita albicilla
64 Neritina coromandeliana
65,66 Neritina sp., species uncertain
70 Babylonia areolata
79 Bulla sp., probably Bulla vernicosa
81 Bulla vernicosa
98 Cypraea carneola
99 Cypraea mappa
100 Cypraea testudinaria
101 Cypraea aurantium
102 Cypraea argus
103 Cypraea tigris
104 Cypraea mappa
105 Cypraea mauritiana
106 Ovula ovum
107 I believe it is Cypraea pantherina, but it could be Cypraea tigris
108 Ovula ovum
109 Cypraea miliaris
110 (L) Cypraea vitellus; (C) Cypraea talpa (R) Ovula ovum


 ysacostas
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  Posted 11/07/2006 03:26:10 PM
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Thank you for identifying PHOTO Folder #5 in the sontillanoshells.multiply.com   images/icones/icon10.gif  I copied all the names into Folders #7 & #5. It looks more interesting to view the shells with their names.  images/icones/icon14.gif  

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 David Touitou
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  Posted 12/07/2006 01:52:23 AM
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I Agree with Shelltony, It's a very good thing to keep your mom's collection. Often people just store them or try to sell them... And thanks again to Paul !! http://www.aceboard.net/kator/099.abgif

 ysacostas
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  Posted 12/07/2006 11:43:11 AM
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Something to think about - if you have money and you what to buy a precious stone such as diamonds, you can just give your specifications and you can have your precious stone.

Unlike shells, you need to search the shores and dive in the depths of the ocean to look for a beautiful shell and you won't even be guaranteed you'll get the shell that you want.  

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 David Touitou
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  Posted 12/07/2006 09:02:57 PM
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Dear ysacostas,

It is totally true But only for the people who hunt themselves for seashells... like me. Most of seashell collectors buy their shells like diamonds without even knowing what kind of habitat the species lives in... They have even many times wrong data given by dealers... many of us do not have the mean to travel that much and it's the only way to own a collection though...  

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 Paul Monfils
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  Posted 13/07/2006 06:27:29 AM
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Group 6:

13 (L) Coralliophila pyriformis; (C) and (R) Harpa amouretta
15 (L) and (R) Casmaria erinacea vibex; (C) Casmaria ponderosa
67 (L to R) Engina mendicaria; Nassarius limnaeiformis; Nassarius albescens; Thais savignyi; Thais sp., probably Thais kieneri.
69 (L) Amphidromus entobaptus (land snail); (C) Natica stellata; (R) Nerita undata
71 (L to R) Cypraea ziczac; Cypraea stolida; Cypraea ziczac; Cypraea lutea; Cypraea bistrinotata
72 (L to R) Cypraea bouvinii; Cypraea pyriformis; Cypraea lynx; Cypraea moneta; Cypraea moneta (beachworn)
73 (Top L to R) Phasianella variegata; Conus mercator; Mitra (Strigatella) retusa; (Bottom L to R) Mitra (Strigatella) paupercula; Pyrene punctata
74 (L to R) Cypraea cribraria; Cypraea chinensis; Cypraea errones; Cypraea errones
75 (L to R) Conus muriculatus; Conus cinereus; Cypraea cicercula; Cypraea globulus; Calpurnus verrucosus
76 (L to R) Cypraea quadrimaculata; Cypraea isabella; Cypraea errones (beachworn); Cypraea annulus; Cypraea ziczac
77 (L to R) Cypraea lynx; Cypraea isabella; Cypraea ziczac; Cypraea helvola; Cypraea limacina
78 (L to R) Cypraea asellus; Cypraea errones; Cypraea annulus; Cypraea stolida; Cypraea teres
80 (Top L and C) Neritina coromandeliana; (Top R) Polinices mammilla; (Bottom) Neritina waigiensis x3
82 (Top R and L) Neritina coromandeliana; all others Neritina waigiensis
83 (Top L) Nerita sp., probably Nerita albicilla; (Top C and Bottom R) Neritina coromandeliana; all others Neritina waigiensis
84 (Top C) Chrysostoma paradoxum; all others Neritina waigiensis
85 (Top R) Neritina coromandeliana; all others Neritina waigiensis
86 (R) Chrysostoma paradoxum; all others Neritina waigiensis
87 (Top R) probably Neritina coromandeliana; all others Neritina waigiensis
88 Neritina waigiensis
89 (Top L) Neritina coromandeliana; (Top C) Natica fasciata; all others Neritina waigiensis
90 Neritina waigiensis
91 (Top C and Bottom R) Neritina coromandeliana; all others Neritina waigiensis
92,93,94,96 Neritina waigiensis
95 (Top L) Neritina turrita; all others Neritina waigiensis
97 (Bottom R) Neritina coromandeliana; all others Neritina waigiensis
I seem to have missed #12 in Group 7, which is Conus consors.

 ysacostas
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  Posted 13/07/2006 01:10:39 PM
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Thank you Paul  images/icones/icon14.gif for identifying Group 6. It really amazes me how you could differentiate one shell from the other.

 ysacostas
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  Posted 13/07/2006 01:52:46 PM
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Dear David,

I had the impression that shells are primarily collected because of their beauty and intricate designs.

Does it make the shell more beautiful and sought after because of where they come from?  

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  Posted 15/07/2006 00:42:58 AM
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Slight error in Group 6, Number 73 - the names of the two miter shells - Mitra (Strigatella) retusa and Mitra (Strigatella) paupercula - are reversed. M. paupercula is actually in the top row, M. retusa in the bottom row.

 ysacostas
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  Posted 15/07/2006 07:38:31 AM
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Dear Paul,

Your attention to details is evident in the project that you're doing regarding the ID of the shells.

Necessary correction shall be done in the URL where I posted the collection.

I'm grateful for the time & energy that you put into this.


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  Posted 15/07/2006 10:19:38 AM
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Quote :

ysacostas wrote : Dear David,

I had the impression that shells are primarily collected because of their beauty and intricate designs.

Does it make the shell more beautiful and sought after because of where they come from?  




Dear ysacostas,

No of course, but if you make a collection, Where the shell comes from becomes very important. Same specimens at first sight can come from different areas and so, may be finally different.
If you are interested by the habitat (especially when you dive/snorkle for shells like me), it becomes important too
For an amateur collector, Shell with no data is usually not bought/traded (except for endemics) or its value is lower.

sincerely,
DAVID

 ysacostas
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  Posted 21/07/2006 12:56:05 AM
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Thank you David for the clarification. With the collection that our family have, what would you suggestion will we do about it?

During my mother's time, the City government of Cagayan De Oro in Mindanao, Phil. sponsored her Shell Museum. When she became ill, she did not anymore renew the contract and pulled-out her collection for safekeeping.

 ysacostas
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  Posted 21/07/2006 01:05:54 PM
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Dear Paul & David,

I hope you will continue to identify the shells.

Will it be fine with you and David if I acknowledge your names for your kind assistance in the sontillanoshells.multiply.com site where I posted the shell photos?


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  Posted 27/07/2006 09:33:47 AM
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Dear ysacostas,

It's difficult to tell about the collection... Three possibilities to consider : You keep it and store it carefully (if you are interested in shells), You sell it (if shells are really do not interesting you), You give/sell it to a Shell Museum (a serious one). As I am collecting only shells that I find If somebody would give me shells, I will give them to Museums. That what I will do with my collection if my childrens are not interested in continuing it. Only you may decide though.

You can acknowledge us (I guess Paul will accept too).
sincerely,
DAVID

 Paul Monfils
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  Posted 28/07/2006 05:15:17 AM
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You may post my name if you wish; and I will be posting additional ID's shortly. Haven't had much time lately.

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